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Courage is Calling: Reset On Your Bravest Path
Courage isn’t an emotion you wait to feel – it’s a decision you make in the presence of fear, doubt, and uncertainty. In this powerful conversation, courage strategist and bestselling author Margie Warrell joins host Kari Cardinale to reframe how we think about courage as a learnable practice, not a rare moment of rescue.
Margie shares why courage is like a muscle that grows stronger with use, how to connect with both your younger and future selves to access inner strength, and why the gap between who you are and who you can become is created by fear – but closed by courage. If you’re navigating midlife transitions, feeling the pull toward something more authentic, or ready to say yes to your boldest vision (and no to what no longer serves you), this conversation offers the clarity and community to help you move forward.
December 12, 2025
9:00 AM PT
12:00 PM ET
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Kari Cardinale
Chief Content Officer & Partner | MEA
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Margie Warrell
Bestselling Author
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The Bonus Round: Crafting a Meaningful Post-Work Chapter
February 5, 2026
10:00 AM PT
01:00 PM ET
With Dr. Pam McLean and host Derek Gehl
Join host Derek Gehl in conversation with Dr. Pam McLean, clinical psychologist and co-founder of The Hudson Institute of Coaching, for a grounded look at the psychological shift that comes after a long career.
This live conversation moves beyond retirement planning to explore deeper questions of identity, contribution, and purpose when familiar roles fall away. Drawing on four decades of experience, Pam offers clear, humane insight into how people can navigate this transition with intention.
In this conversation, we’ll explore how to:
- Loosen your grip on work-based identity without losing your sense of worth
- Rethink contribution when titles and roles no longer define you
- Relate differently to time, structure, and self-direction
Whether you’re planning ahead or already in transition, this conversation offers perspective on shaping a post-work chapter that feels meaningful and engaged.