Episode 57

January 19, 2026

Gavin Newsom

Gavin Newsom on Leadership, Identity, and Becoming Yourself

Gavin Newsom on Leadership, Identity, and Becoming Yourself

What happens when ambition slows down, and wisdom begins to lead?

Chip Conley, founder of Modern Elder Academy and host of Midlife Chrysalis, sits down with California Governor Gavin Newsom for a rare, deeply personal conversation shaped by nearly 30 years of mentorship and friendship. This is not a political interview, it’s an honest exploration of midlife, identity, and becoming.

Together, they reflect on:

  • How Gavin’s upbringing and dyslexia shaped his leadership
  • Why legalizing same-sex marriage became a defining moral moment
  •  What the “winter years” between mayor and governor revealed
  • How fatherhood and midlife reshaped his relationship with power
  • Why grace, humility, and resilience matter now more than ever

Warm, thoughtful, and deeply human, this episode explores what’s possible when we slow down and listen.

👉 If you’re navigating change or reinvention, watch now and step into the chrysalis.

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