Episode 175

October 21, 2026

Chip Conley

When Everything Hits at Once: The Art of the Reframe

When Everything Hits at Once: The Art of the Reframe

“Stay positive” can feel hollow when cancer returns, someone you love dies, and your marriage is ending.

In this Wisdom Wednesday episode, MEA founder and author Chip Conley joins Derek Gehl for a deeply personal conversation about facing all three. Drawing on his upcoming book, The Art of the Reframe, Chip shares how he’s finding a way forward without pretending the pain isn’t real.

You’ll discover how to:

  • Feel the grief before trying to find the silver lining.
  • Separate what happened from the story you tell yourself about it.
  • Rethink the belief that a marriage ending means it failed.
  • Find new possibilities through a simple reframing practice.
  • Build deeper friendships by opening up about what’s really going on.

Watch for an honest conversation about loss, love, and changing your perspective when you can’t change your circumstances.

Pre-order your copy of Chip's new The Art of the Reframe book today at meawisdom.com/reframebook

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