Episode 177

October 26, 2026

John Baird

How to Lead with Heart and Still Make Tough Calls | John Baird

How to Lead with Heart and Still Make Tough Calls | John Baird

The hardest conversations are often the ones that help us grow.

John Baird has spent 30 years coaching leaders at Apple. At 82, he’s still coaching, trying new things, and making time for what matters most.

In this episode of The Midlife Chrysalis, John joins Chip Conley for a warm, candid conversation about leading with heart, making tough decisions, and building a meaningful life. He shares:

  • How to hold people accountable while treating them with care.
  • Why strong teams say the things everyone is thinking.
  • How to turn your experience into a coaching career in midlife.
  • Why revisiting your priorities matters in both work and marriage.
  • How curiosity and gratitude keep life rich at any age.

Watch for practical wisdom on becoming a better leader and making more room for the people who matter to you.

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