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Joyspan: The Art and Science of Thriving in Life’s Second Half
You know the checklist for aging well: move your body, eat right, stay sharp. But there’s something missing from that list – the part about whether you’re actually enjoying any of it.
Join host Kari Cardinale and gerontologist Dr. Kerry Burnight for a live conversation about joyspan – Kerry’s framework for building psychological well-being with the same intentionality we bring to physical health. She’s spent decades studying what makes people genuinely thrive in their 50s, 60s, 70s, and beyond, and she makes a compelling case that joy is a skill you can develop, not a personality trait you either have or don’t.
You’ll also get a preview of Kerry’s four-day MEA workshop in Santa Fe, Joyspan: The Art and Science of Thriving in Life’s Second Half, happening July 12–16.
June 8, 2026
11:00 AM PT
02:00 PM ET
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Kari Cardinale
Chief Content Officer & Partner | MEA
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Dr. Kerry Burnight
New York Times Bestselling Author | Creator of the Joyspan Framework | Former UC Irvine Professor of Gerontology
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8:00 AM PT
11:00 AM ET
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July 23, 2026
9:30 AM PT
12:30 PM ET
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Derek’s sitting down for a virtual chat with Kelly Notaras, who’s edited more than 200 books over 25 years, a few of them New York Times bestsellers. She wrote The Book You Were Born to Write and founded KN Literary Arts. And she’s unusually good at seeing what a book wants to be before its writer does.
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July 29, 2026
3:00 PM PT
06:00 PM ET
Most of us treat time away from work as a reward for pushing through. DJ DiDonna sees it differently: as protected time to ask what your work, energy, and ambition are asking of you now.
Join us for a live virtual conversation with DJ DiDonna, Harvard Business School Senior Lecturer, founder of The Sabbatical Project, and author of Big Time Off: The Transformative Power of Sabbaticals and How to Take One.
Drawing on a decade of research, interviews, and his own sabbatical after years of startup burnout, DJ will reframe sabbaticals from a rare perk into a serious tool for clarity, identity change, and regret prevention.