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Transformational Listening: Let Life Speak to You
Gail Larsen has spent 30+ years helping leaders, authors, and change-makers find their authentic voice – and she’ll tell you the real work doesn’t start with speaking. It starts with listening – the kind that picks up what your mind keeps overriding: body signals, timing, intuition, the quiet knowing you’ve been too busy to notice.
Join host Derek Gehl, who credits Gail’s work with changing how he leads and lives, for a conversation about what becomes possible when you stop trying to figure everything out and start letting life show you what’s next.
They’ll touch on:
- The shift from speaking to listening – and why it matters now
- How curiosity becomes the way through when certainty stops working
- Why play is a form of serious intelligence
- What it means to lead, decide, and live from deeper listening
- The nature of transformation and where it originates
This will be a listening-led conversation, followed by time for your questions. Whether you’re familiar with Gail’s work or meeting it for the first time, this hour is an invitation to slow down, tune in, and notice what’s already speaking beneath the noise.
If this conversation stirs something in you, consider going deeper with Gail in her Transformational Listening workshop at MEA — offered in both April and October. It’s an immersive exploration of how to access the deeper intelligence that’s always available when we learn to truly listen — to ourselves, to others, and to life itself. Choose the timing that fits best for you.
March 11, 2026
11:30 AM PT
02:30 PM ET
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Gail Larsen
Award-winning Author
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Derek Gehl
CEO, Modern Elder Academy
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The Deeper Work: Psilocybin, Psychedelic Research, and a Guided Retreat
August 14, 2026
12:30 PM PT
03:30 PM ET
Psilocybin is changing the conversation about personal growth, emotional healing, and the mind’s capacity to form new patterns.
This October, MEA and Beckley Retreats will bring a small group to Jamaica for The Deeper Work, a five-night guided experience that includes two guided psilocybin ceremonies, contemplative practices, live music, and support before and after the retreat.
Join MEA faculty member and therapist Lori Schwanbeck for a live conversation with Beckley Retreats’ COO Anja Saloranta and co-founder and CEO Neil Markey. Together, they’ll share the research and thinking behind psychedelic treatments, along with a candid look at what responsible psychedelic work involves.
You’ll hear about:
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What scientists are learning about psilocybin and the brain
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How guests are screened, prepared, and supported
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What happens during a professionally guided ceremony
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Why and how the work continues after you return home
Want to explore the retreat before joining the conversation?
The Deeper Work is our five-night, guided psilocybin retreat in Jamaica for those seeking a carefully held space for reflection, healing, and meaningful change.
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From Autopilot to Fully Alive: Zen Tools for Presence and Purpose
August 20, 2026
9:00 AM PT
12:00 PM ET
You scroll when you mean to rest, half-listen to loved ones, and reach the end of the day wondering how it flew by. As a Zen priest, teacher, and executive coach, Dan Zigmond brings Zen mindfulness into the places we need it most: demanding work, family life, busy calendars, and the beautiful mess of being human.
Join the Zen teacher and executive coach for a live conversation about staying awake, steady, and connected to your purpose in a world that pulls your attention in a hundred directions.
Dan will share practical ways to step out of autopilot, relate differently to distraction, and create more space between what happens and how you respond. Fresh perspective, simple practices you can use, and the chance to bring your questions to Dan.
Go deeper with Dan in Santa Fe this October
Check out Dan’s upcoming workshop, From Autopilot to Fully Alive: Zen Tools for Presence and Purpose in a Distracted World. Over three days at Rising Circle Ranch, you’ll learn simple Zen practices for calming mental noise, working with distraction, and being more fully present. Explore Dan’s workshop
Career Transitions: Your Clear Path Forward
August 27, 2026
9:00 AM PT
12:00 PM ET
You followed the path to a good life: school, promotions, benefits, a title. Then something shifts. Maybe your company chooses it for you. Maybe you’re still employed but thinking, “I can’t do this for another five years.”
Carolina Lasso followed “all the shoulds.” An immigrant from Colombia, she became valedictorian, won scholarships, worked on Wall Street, and made an impact at Google – until depression, panic attacks, and imposter syndrome made it impossible to ignore her own inner voice.
Join Carolina and host Kari Cardinale for a live conversation about making career moves that are financially grounded, personally meaningful, and wise. Bring your questions for the Q&A.