The Bonus Round: Crafting a Meaningful Post-Work Chapter

The oldest Gen Xers turn 60 this year and many are realizing “retirement” doesn’t look anything like what we were promised. But it’s not too late to design what comes next with confidence, money smarts, and meaning.

Join personal finance expert Kerry Hannon and encore career advocate Marci Alboher for a candid, practical conversation about how to prepare for this next phase without panic or perfectionism.

They’ll get into what actually works:

• Smart financial moves to make now, not someday
• Second acts, third acts, and the rise of phased retirement
• How intergenerational partnerships can keep you relevant and inspired
• Kerry’s three-part “fitness plan” for a rewarding next chapter—financial, physical, and spiritual

No scare tactics. Just straight talk for a generation that’s rewriting the rules – again.

Gail Larsen has spent 30+ years helping leaders, authors, and change-makers find their authentic voice – and she’ll tell you the real work doesn’t start with speaking. It starts with listening – the kind that picks up what your mind keeps overriding: body signals, timing, intuition, the quiet knowing you’ve been too busy to notice.

Join host Derek Gehl, who credits Gail’s work with changing how he leads and lives, for a conversation about what becomes possible when you stop trying to figure everything out and start letting life show you what’s next.

They’ll touch on:

• The shift from speaking to listening – and why it matters now
• How curiosity becomes the way through when certainty stops working
• Why play is a form of serious intelligence
• What it means to lead, decide, and live from deeper listening
• The nature of transformation and where it originates

This will be a listening-led conversation, followed by time for your questions. Whether you’re familiar with Gail’s work or meeting it for the first time, this hour is an invitation to slow down, tune in, and notice what’s already speaking beneath the noise.