Spirituality, Happiness & Poetry

With Dr. Pam McLean and host Derek Gehl

Join host Derek Gehl in conversation with Dr. Pam McLean, clinical psychologist and co-founder of The Hudson Institute of Coaching, for a grounded look at the psychological shift that comes after a long career.

This live conversation moves beyond retirement planning to explore deeper questions of identity, contribution, and purpose when familiar roles fall away. Drawing on four decades of experience, Pam offers clear, humane insight into how people can navigate this transition with intention.

In this conversation, we’ll explore how to:

• Loosen your grip on work-based identity without losing your sense of worth

• Rethink contribution when titles and roles no longer define you

• Relate differently to time, structure, and self-direction

Whether you’re planning ahead or already in transition, this conversation offers perspective on shaping a post-work chapter that feels meaningful and engaged.