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Me, Gary Vee & the Comeback of Experience.


Not too long ago, I sat in the hot seat with famed podcaster and social media guru Gary Vaynerchuk, a guy who doesn’t hold back his F-bombs. I was a little nervous going into this interview but immediately realized that Gary looooves the concept of the “Modern Elder” and MEA.

In this 8-minute summary of our time together, you’ll see why Gary thinks experience is making a comeback.

The message for us all is clear: the enthusiasm for what the Modern Elder brings to the world is expanding outward and faster than ever. You’ll hear it in Gary’s voice. In fact, below is a social media post from Gary, published soon after our interview. He’s now looking for copywriters from the 1970s and 80s.

Let the revolution begin.

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