Harness Ritual & Body Wisdom to Navigate Transitions

Gail Larsen has spent 30+ years helping leaders, authors, and change-makers find their authentic voice – and she’ll tell you the real work doesn’t start with speaking. It starts with listening – the kind that picks up what your mind keeps overriding: body signals, timing, intuition, the quiet knowing you’ve been too busy to notice.

Join host Derek Gehl, who credits Gail’s work with changing how he leads and lives, for a conversation about what becomes possible when you stop trying to figure everything out and start letting life show you what’s next.

They’ll touch on:

• The shift from speaking to listening – and why it matters now
• How curiosity becomes the way through when certainty stops working
• Why play is a form of serious intelligence
• What it means to lead, decide, and live from deeper listening
• The nature of transformation and where it originates

This will be a listening-led conversation, followed by time for your questions. Whether you’re familiar with Gail’s work or meeting it for the first time, this hour is an invitation to slow down, tune in, and notice what’s already speaking beneath the noise.

If this conversation stirs something in you, consider going deeper with Gail in her Transformational Listening workshop at MEA — offered in both April and October. It’s an immersive exploration of how to access the deeper intelligence that’s always available when we learn to truly listen — to ourselves, to others, and to life itself.  Choose the timing that fits best for you.

If you and your partner are solid, but miss feeling a little more lit up together, you’re not alone. In this warm, down-to-earth hour, psychologist Dr. Karen Skerrett will explore with host Mary Hofstedt what keeps love alive in midlife — and how couples can gently find their way back to feeling closer and more seen. Expect smart, hopeful conversation, a peek into Karen’s upcoming Santa Fe retreat for couples, and a few simple ways to reach for each other again.

Join us for Rekindling Connection: A Retreat for Couples in Midlife and Beyond Apr 23 – 26, 2026 Santa Fe, USA